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下为英文网读者就中美物价对比一文发表的评论:读者"American in China"写道:
我在中国生活了十年。我在北京的进口食品店和本地市场都买过东西。所有的进口食品明显都比较贵(比如一盒Poptarts就要5美元,所以我的孩子是不吃的)。我一直在关注基本食品价格的上涨,并早就决定在美国过圣诞节期间购买普通杂货、苹果、卷心菜、肉和鸡蛋的时候也做个这样的对比。
还要考虑的一点是质量。我可以去品牌店和中级百货商场买衣服,也可以去服装批发市场买便宜货。在两个国家我都没买过品牌店的衣服,但我听说(在中国)价格高20%或以上。在中级百货商场花200元(30多美元)给儿子买条牛仔裤就算不错了,但我今天在Penny's以14.99美元的折扣价买了几条。在中国根本就不会这样打折。服装批发市场里一条牛仔裤要价300元,我也许能还价到80元左右,当地人也许能还到50,但这种裤子洗过几次之后就会破。在Penny's买的牛仔裤一直到我儿子穿不下的时候都不会破。
我看过的一套北京公寓,面积1000平方英尺(约92.9平米),开价17万美元(约113万元人民币)。壁橱、烤箱和电器都没有,廉价的复合木地板,刷过的混凝土 面,而且这栋房龄不到10年的建筑有些地方已经裂开了,由于施工质量差,水管到冬天经常会冻结。几年前,我们在二线城市买的同样大小的房子价格是6万美元,现在应该涨到7万美元了,房龄也不到十年,不能太走近这栋楼,因为可能会被楼侧掉落的混凝土块砸到。
汽油的价格是每加仑约3.5美元,选加油站的时候得非常小心,因为有些加油站用的是劣质油,对车不好。
普通收入水平的中国人要么把几代人攒下的钱凑起来(买房),要么过着我们永远都不可能接受的生活。
读者"To American in china"写道:
我在美国和中国生活的年头一样长,今年和去年夏天还去过中国。我对上述有关买衣服的评论完全赞同。在服装批发市场里,衣服价格能砍到低至60块(合10美元左右),但质量很糟,过不了几年肯定会破。而我肯定大家都知道,打折的美国商品也都很耐用。
但是对比其他一些服务型消费,比如理发、按摩等,在中国就便宜得多。在中国拉直头发的价格是300元人民币,而在美国要500美元,差的太离谱了。
归根结底,中国的中产阶级无疑会继续过着节俭的生活,未来还可能会更节俭,但中国经济环境造就的是企业家、精明的商人,以及能够发掘中国小众市场的聪明人。中国是发展中国家。要么抓住机会,要么乖乖打工看着别人成为有钱人。
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American in China wrote:
I've lived in China for 10 years. I shop in both import groceries and local markets in Beijing. All import groceries are obviously more expensive (ie $5 for a box of Poptarts, so my children don't eat them) I have been noticing the inrease in basic food prices and had decided to do just such a comparison while i'm in the US for Christmas for universal groceries, apples, cabbage, meat, eggs.
The other thing to consider is quality. I can go to designer stores to buy clothes, mid-level department stores, or markets with knock-offs. I don't buy designer in either country, but I hear they are 20% or more higher. Mid-level department stores I'm lucky to pay 200rmb ($30+)for a pair of jeans for my son, but I just bought some today at Penny's on sale for $14.99. They won't ever be on that kind of sale in China. The markets will try to charge me 300rmb for jeans and I may be able to bargain them down to about 80, a local maybe even get down to 50, but they will fall apart after only a few washings. The jeans from Penny's will last until he outgrows them.
A 1000sq ft. apartment in Beijing I know of went on the market for $170,000. No closets, oven, appliances, cheap laminate flooring, painted concrete walls. And despite the fact that parts of the less than 10 year old building were already falling apart and the pipes commonly freeze in winter because of poor construction. A 1000 sq ft. apartment we bought in a second-tier city was $60,000 a few years ago, would be more than $70,000 now, is less than 10 years old and you can't walk too close to the building for fear of being hit by chunks of concrete falling off the side.
Gasoline is running about $3.50/gallon and we have to be careful which station we use because some have such dirty gasoline it affects our car.
The Chinese who earn those averages either pool their money between the generations or live a lifestyle we would never consider acceptable.
To American in china wrote:
I have lived in the us and china for an equal number of years and I have visited china for the past two summers. I completely agree with the comment on clothing. The market stuff can be bargained down to something really cheap like 60 rmb or 10 ish dollars, the quality is terrible and will indeed fall apart after a few wears. The discounted American goods, I'm sure we all know, will pretty much last forever.
However comparing some other things that are service intensive, such as hair cuts/styling, massages, etc are much much cheaper in china. A similar hair straightening service costs 300rmb but in the states costs 500 dollars. Ridiculous.
Bottom line, no doubt the middle class of china will continue to live in humble manners if not more so in the future, but what china's economic environment breeds is entrepreneurs, savvy and clever businessmen, and in general intelligent people who can identify niche markets in china. It's a developing country. Either take advantage of the opportunities, or take a desk job and watch others get rich.
I've lived in China for 10 years. I shop in both import groceries and local markets in Beijing. All import groceries are obviously more expensive (ie $5 for a box of Poptarts, so my children don't eat them) I have been noticing the inrease in basic food prices and had decided to do just such a comparison while i'm in the US for Christmas for universal groceries, apples, cabbage, meat, eggs.
The other thing to consider is quality. I can go to designer stores to buy clothes, mid-level department stores, or markets with knock-offs. I don't buy designer in either country, but I hear they are 20% or more higher. Mid-level department stores I'm lucky to pay 200rmb ($30+)for a pair of jeans for my son, but I just bought some today at Penny's on sale for $14.99. They won't ever be on that kind of sale in China. The markets will try to charge me 300rmb for jeans and I may be able to bargain them down to about 80, a local maybe even get down to 50, but they will fall apart after only a few washings. The jeans from Penny's will last until he outgrows them.
A 1000sq ft. apartment in Beijing I know of went on the market for $170,000. No closets, oven, appliances, cheap laminate flooring, painted concrete walls. And despite the fact that parts of the less than 10 year old building were already falling apart and the pipes commonly freeze in winter because of poor construction. A 1000 sq ft. apartment we bought in a second-tier city was $60,000 a few years ago, would be more than $70,000 now, is less than 10 years old and you can't walk too close to the building for fear of being hit by chunks of concrete falling off the side.
Gasoline is running about $3.50/gallon and we have to be careful which station we use because some have such dirty gasoline it affects our car.
The Chinese who earn those averages either pool their money between the generations or live a lifestyle we would never consider acceptable.
To American in china wrote:
I have lived in the us and china for an equal number of years and I have visited china for the past two summers. I completely agree with the comment on clothing. The market stuff can be bargained down to something really cheap like 60 rmb or 10 ish dollars, the quality is terrible and will indeed fall apart after a few wears. The discounted American goods, I'm sure we all know, will pretty much last forever.
However comparing some other things that are service intensive, such as hair cuts/styling, massages, etc are much much cheaper in china. A similar hair straightening service costs 300rmb but in the states costs 500 dollars. Ridiculous.
Bottom line, no doubt the middle class of china will continue to live in humble manners if not more so in the future, but what china's economic environment breeds is entrepreneurs, savvy and clever businessmen, and in general intelligent people who can identify niche markets in china. It's a developing country. Either take advantage of the opportunities, or take a desk job and watch others get rich.
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